430 band RFI measurements.
last update 180607
180605: turn off vertex
encoders one at a time looking for rfi.
180601: comb seen in 430
receiver from platform encoder.
17mar14: 430
Mhz rfi with a period of 10 seconds.
30nov12:
az swings with polA filter removed.
- Digital tv station intermods with filter in,out
- az dependence of birdies
- birdies with a time periodicity.
30nov12: ham rfi in the 440 band.
01nov11:
power
shutdown of visitors center.
10aug11: chris
salters list of rfi at 327,430 using telescope data.
03apr09: Peak hold spectrum at dewar output
during az swing.
02apr09: 4 azswings with dome at 19 degrees.
28oct08: wide spectral variations in upper half
of ch band.
14dec06:
large
birdies
at 418.625 and 419.2 MHz
04oct06 - az,za encoder 614 Khz comb
seen at 430MHz
29may06:
430
yagi,
linefeed see the birdies with 1 minute periodicity.
06dec05 Ac units in dome
cause birdies at 430MHz
02dec05:
birdies
at
430 MHz with 1 minute periods.
08oct04: 430MHz filter in front of
dewar removes tv station intermods.
30jul03: 422 to 442 filter after
dewar does not get rid of tv station intermods
19jun03 430 birides vs az, Tv
station intermods.
More
on the 426.25 MHz birdie (doppler shift birdie via the azimuth
spin)
23oct02 410 MHz birdies.
11apr01 430 dome.
Multimeter inside new rfi enclosure.
22jan01 See if vittara jeep by
the control room makes rfi in 430 rcvr.
On
30nov12 azimuth swings were taken using the mock spectrometer and
the 430 Mhz receiver. While the swings were in progress different
birdies in the 1st IF were plugged into the ICOMM receiver.
The repeater input output frequencies in the
440-450 band are:
repeater ouptut
|
repeater input
|
440-445
|
+ 5 Mhz
|
445-450
|
- 5 Mhz
|
The list below describes what was heard (and seen on the spectrum
analyzer).
Freq recorded at AO
|
Other freq
Either repeater of user
|
|
|
445.64
|
440.64
|
446.14
446.13
|
441.14
441.13
|
447.42
|
442.42
|
448.66
|
443.66
|
03apr09: Peak hold spectrum at dewar
output during az swing.
plots:
the
peak
hold spectrum (.ps) (.pdf):
the
spectrum
plotted
by tvStation (.ps) (.pdf):
The E4445A spectrum analyzer was used to measure
the 430 dome dewar output while an azimuth swing was
performed. The setup was:
- The dome was at 19.6 degrees. The azimuth moved from 540 to
180 and then 180 back to 540.
- The spectrum analyzer was placed at the output of 430 dewar.
- preamp in spectrum analyzer used
- Peak hold taken with 200 Mhz bandwidth (centered at 430
Mhz), with 100Khz rbw.
- The peak Hold lasted for the entire az swing.
- There were 8192 channels across the 200 Mhz bandpass
- The 430 dome has a cavity filter in front of the dewar. It has
a wide bandpass with notches in the video and audio carriers of
chan 14 and chan 22 (i'm not sure about the chroma..).
The first plots show the peak
hold spectrum (.ps) (.pdf):
- Page 1: 330 to 530. (the entire band)
- Page 2:
- 330 to 405: below the 430 receiver band. This may look
clean because the waveguide is cutting off some of the rfi.
- 400 to 450: encompasses the 430 rcvr band
- Page 3:
- 440 to 470: above 430 band to start of tv stations
- 470 to 530: tv stations.
The second set of plots has the spectrum plotted by
tvStation (.ps) (.pdf):
- Pol A in black, polB is red.
- Different parts of the video bandwidth are flagged by color:
- grey: band edges
- violet : video carrier
- green: color
- red: audio carrier
- Page1:
- chan 14 470-476.
- there is a notches filter at the video and audio carriers
(i'm not sure about the color).
- chan 15 476-482
- dtv channel. polA looks like it has a resonance at 478
MHz.
- This channel was not present when the cavity filter was
designed. It first appeared in dec04.
- chan 16 482-488. empty
- chan 17 488-494. empty
- Page 2:
- chan 18 494-500. dtv
- chan 19 500-506. empty
- chan 20 506-512 analog tv
- chan 21 512-518 dtv
- chan 22 518-524 analog tv
- The cavity filter has a notch in the video and audio
carrier.
Summary:
- chan 15 is a dtv
station (that was not present when the cavity filter was
designed).
- It has an average value of -30 dbm at the output of the
dewar in a 100 Khz Rbw.
- The dewar output total power for this station is : -30 +
18=-12 dbm (.1Mhz in 6Mhz is 18db)
- The azimuth swing at za=19 taken on
02apr09 did not show any azimuth dependence that could be
tv station intermods.
processing:
x101/090402/dewar430.pro
02apr09: az swings with dome at 19
degrees. (07apr09 azswing, za=2)
There had been complaints that the 430 dome
system was unstable. On 02apr09 4 azimuth swings were done to see if
there were any external birdies causing problems. If the same rfi
appears at the same azimuth in different azimuth swings, then the
rfi is not coming from inside th edome.
The setup was:
- dome za=19
- az 270 to 630 at .38 deg/sec then 630->270 at -.38 deg/sec.
This was repeated to give 4 swings (2 clockwise, 2
counterclockwise).
- the interim correlator was set for 25 MHz bw, 2048 channels,
and 1 second dump.
- The band was centered on 430 MHz.
Dynamic spectra were made for each
az swing
- The vertical scale is azimuth (-90 to + 270). The horizontal
scale is frequency).
- swing 3: az=70-120. These are standing wave from the sun. Data
was taken 16:00 to 18:00.
- There is a large birdie close to 440.9 MHz that occasionally
compresses the spectra. This can be seen on swing2, az=260.
freq=440.9. This birdie is hams talking to each other (i
listened to them on the radio). This has been around for a long
time.
- Some of the rfi is time variable. 435.2, 433.9.
- You can see an azimuth dependence in:
The second set of plots shows:
The average
spectra and the azimuth dependence of some of the birdies: (.ps)
(.pdf):
- Page 1: Average spectra for
each az swing.
- Top: The average spectra for the 4 swings are overplotted.
The vertical scale is db's above Tsys.
- The 440.9 rfi average is about 30 dB above the power in a
24 Khz channel.
- 431.50,434.64, and 437.77 are intermods of this birdie.
- This birdie is hams talking to each other (i listened to
them on the radio).
- Middle, Bottom: Average spectra polA (middle) polB (bottom)
using a linear scale and blowing up the vertical range to 0 to
1 Tsys.
- 427.656, 432.539, 437.505, and 439.912 are flagged with a
dotted line. They were the only strong birdies that showed
an azimuth dependence.
- 424.18 showed no az dependence and it is only in polA.
probably coming from in the dome.
- Page 2: azimuth dependence of the 4 birdies.
- Each frame has the azimuth dependence of a birdie.
- In a single frame the bottom 4 traces (colors) are
polA, the top 4 traces (colors) are polB.
Summary:
- No large Tv station intermods were seen.
- Azimuth dependence for polA and polB are offset in azimuth.
- on 07apr09 2 azswings were done with the dome at za=2. There
was no birdies with strong azimuth dependence (but there were
birides!).
FREQ
|
Strength
|
Notes
|
440.9
|
1000Tsys
|
Causes system to compress.
This is hams talking to each other
creates intermods at 431.5,434.64,437.77 (probably in
interim correlator).
|
424.18
|
2*Tsys
|
about twice Tsys in 24Khz.
No azimuth dependence
Only in polA
Probably in the dome.
|
427.656
|
.1*Tsys
|
shows azimuth dependence
weak: < 10% Tsys.
lots of azimuth's where it is non zero
|
432.539
|
.2*Tsys
|
shows azimuth dependence
weak: < 20% Tsys
lots of azimuths were it is non zero.
|
437.505
|
1*Tsys
|
azimuth dependence
Peaks near -20 az.. this is close to the direction to the
control room.
|
439.812
|
1*Tsys
|
az dependence
Peaks at 0 and 180 degrees in polA
|
see also: az swings 19jun03
looking at tv intermods;
processing:
x101/090402/azswing.pro
28oct08 ch has az variation in upper half
of band. (top)
On 28oct08 an aeronomy run was preparing to start
when fluctuations in the upper half of the 430 ch band was
observered. The fluctuations went away when the receiver was
switched to load. Azimuth swings were done to see if there was an
azimuth dependence to the problem. The setups were:
ch azswing:
- The ch was set to 0 degrees za. The dome was at 15 degrees za.
- The az was swung from az=30 to az=270 at .4 degrees/sec.
- Data was taken with the interim correlator with 12.5 MHz
Bandwidth centered at 430 MHz using 1 second integrations.
gr azswing:
- the gr was at 15 degrees za, the ch was at 0 degrees za.
- The az was swung from -180 degrees to +180 degrees at .4
deg/sec.
- Data was taken with the interim correlator using a 25 MHz Bw
centered at 430 MHz. Spectra were integrated for 1 second. The
422 to 442 filter was in place.
The first plots show the total
power vs az for the swings (.ps) (.pdf):
- page 1 ch power vs az.
- top: total power polA vs az. The red trace is when the
azimuth reversed direction at az=270. It overlays the
clockwise swing so the structure is a function of az and not
time.
- center. The average bandpass.
- bottom: The rms/mean by frequency channel. This shows the
variation in time by frequency. The variations are occuring
more in the upper half of the band.
- page 2 greg power vs az.
- top: total power polA vs az. The red trace is when the
azimuth continued beyond 360 degrees of motion.
- center. The average bandpass.
- bottom: The rms/mean by frequency channel. It is relatively
flat with frequency so whatever is causing the ch to jump is
not occuring in the dome.
The second plot overplots the
spectra for the ch az swing (.pdf):
- Each spectra is a 1 second integration.
- The peak is near 437 MHz. It is about 6 times the normal value
(.7*6=4.2).
The ch and dome both have a cavity filter in
front of the dewar that is notching out channels 14 (474 MHz) and
channel 22 (520.MHz). Ganesh looked at the output of the dewar and
saw the 474 at around -20 dbm. This would be -40 dbm at the input to
the dewar (20 db gain). This may not have been at an azimuth angle
that gave the largest variations.
Summary:
- 430 ch has variations in the spectra above 430 MHz. They were
seen at za=0 and za=15
- The variations are not seen on load.
- The dome does not see these variations (at least when it is at
15 deg za).
- Az swing shows the variations to have an azimuth dependence.
- We may be seeing some harmonics/intermods from some
digital tv stations.
- We should do two complete az swings with the ch to make sure
that the azimuth dependence is tied to the ground and not the
sky (by putting 15 minutes between a repeat of an azimuth
position, the sky would have moved enough to not repeat at the
same azimuth).
processing:
x101/081028/azswing.pro
01/06dec06 large birdies near
419MHz saturate receiver (top)
430 aeronomy runs have seen a large birdie that
saturates the receiver chain with a frequency near 419 MHz. Data was
taken with the 430 dome and the interim correlator on 01dec06 and
06dec06 to check this out.
06dec06: large birdie at 419.2 MHz
The birdie was seen intermittantly between
12:30 and 14:30 AST on 06dec06. The telescope was sitting at
az=312.2, za=10. This was the only time it was seen. It was not
seen during a few hours of monitoring on 01dec06 or 30nov06. It
was also not seen in any of the x111 data taken during nov06,dec06
(about 11 1 minute integrations spread over midnite to 10am).
The plots show the
characteristics
of
the 419.2 MHz Birdie (.ps) (.pdf):
- Page 1 Top 5 minute averages: 30 5 minute
spectral averages are overplotted. Black is polA, red is
polB (the feed is circular). The birdie was not resolved in
the 24 Khz channel widths (after hanning smoothing). The
amplitude of the birdie averaged over 5 minutes got up to
about 12000 times Tsys. Since the birdie was not on all the
time, the actual strength was greater (see below).
- Page 1 Bottom the strength of the birdie channel.
The strength of the single birdie channel (averaged over 5
minutes) is plotted. It reached a peak during the 5 minute
average at 14.36 (14:21 ast).
- Page 2 top birdie channel strength 1 sec resolution: This
plots
the
24
Khz channel at 419.2 MHz vs time with 1 second resolution. The
vertical scale is now db's above Tsys. The constant
value of 50 db probably means that the system was saturated.
The slow rise of Tsys around the green dashed line is the
galaxy passing through the beam.
- Page 2 bottom how long did the birdie stay on. This
plot
shows
how long the birdie stayed on (within the 1 second
integration). The most common duration was 3 seconds. At 14.3
hours it stayed on for 25 seconds at a time.
01dec06: large birdie at 418.625 MHz.
The 418.625 MHz birdie was seen for about 1
hour between 11:30 and 12:30 AST on 01dec06 (after this time the
frequency was changed so we have no data). 1 second spectra were
taken as well has baseband data with 100 Khz bandwidth. The 1
second spectra have 48 Khz resolution (after hanning smoothing).
The plots show the
418.625
MHz
birdie in the 1 second averaged spectra (.ps) (.pdf):
- Top a 1 second spectra. Black in polA and red is
polB. The dashed green line is at 418.625 MHz. The birdie has
not been resolved in the 48 Khz channel. For some reason polA
is a lot stronger than polB (even though the main beam
of the feed is circular).
- Middle the time variation of the birdie. This shows
the 48 Khz channel at 418.625 MHz vs time (with 1 second
resolution). The birdie gets up to about 7000 times Tsys.
- Bottom how long the birdie stayed on. This shows
how long the birdie stayed on vs time. The most common
duration was 3 seconds.
Baseband data with 100 Khz bandwidth was taken
after the 1 second data above. The spectra were computed using 100
Hz resolution (1K transforms). This gave a new spectra every 10
millseconds.
The image shows the
dynamic
spectra
of 10 seconds worth of data (.gif):
- The birdie turned on twice in the 10 seconds. The ghost at
418.75 is probably instrumental. The birdie has a carrier and
then a modulation phase. Some of the properties are:
- The birdie is on for 2.07 seconds.
- The modulation is on for .53 seconds
- The birdies are spaced by 5.55 seconds. This is a little
different than the 1 second data.
- It does not look like this system was going into
saturation during this time. The data was taken through the
radar interface with a 12 bit a/d converter (the 1 second
averaged data used the 9 level correlator).
The final plot shows the birdie spectra
averaged over a single pulsewhen
the modulation was on and when it was off (.ps) (.pdf):
- The black trace is averaged over 50 milliseconds when
the modulation was on. The red trace was averaged over
67 milliseconds when the modulation was off. The vertical
scale is db's above Tsys. It got up to about 50 Db (being on
during the entire time). It is about 2.4 Khz when the
modulation is off and 9 Khz when the modulation is on. This
data was probably not saturated.
Summary:
- A birdie at 419.2 MHz was seen on 06dec06.
- The birdie was not resolved with a 24 Khz channel width.
- Within a 1 second spectra the strength got up to 50
db above Tsys ( in a 24 Khz channel width).
- The receiver system (using the interim correlator
saturated during the birdie).
-
-
04oct06 - az,za encoder 614
Khz comb seen at 430MHz (top)
The az,za encoders were found to generate a comb
with a spacing of 614 khz. A new encoder was installed on 02aug06.
It was later found that the comb from the "newer" encoder is a lot
stronger than the old one.
project a2125 was using the dome to do 430 MHz
mapping. The setup was 1024 channels over 12.5 MHz. Data was
taken with the new encoder (04oct06 pm) and with the old encoder
(05oct06 pm). For each nite a single strip was averaged. The za was
chosen so that the za's were at higher za (where the comb is
stronger).The plots show how the
strength
of the comb decreased when the new encoder was replaced
(.ps) (.pdf):
- Top: average of 1 strip (135 1 second samples). Black is the
new encoder (05oct06 am) and red is the old encoder (06oct06
am). The green vertical lines are at the comb frequency
(computed from the 327 MHz data).
- Middle: A vertical blowup of the top plot. The red old
encoder has been offset vertically to compare the two days. Most
of the small spike (at the comb frequency) are gone on 06oct06.
- Bottom: Blowup of the 432.539 MHz comb element. This was the
strongest 430 Comb element seen in the lab (with the new
encoder). The birdie at 432.539 decreased, but so did the birdie
at 432.575 MHz. These are probably some other birdies (not
coming from the encoders).
The two strips were not at the same az,za so some of the comb change
could be do to the az,za dependence of the comb.
processing: x101/061005/comb)614khz_430_a2125.pro
06dec05 Ac
units in dome cause birdies at 430MHz (top)
The Ac units in the dome have a digital control
that caused rfi. This rfi was seen as a 1
MHz comb in the 327 MHz receiver. Turning the Ac off with the
remote control does not make the birdies go away since the digital
remote control in the ac unit is still on. You need to turn off the
power to the ac unit for the birdies to stop.
On 06dec05 data was taken with the interim
correlator. A switch had been installed allowing you to turn off the
power to the old AC unit in the dome. We took data with the AC on,
AC off, and then AC on. The results are:
- A
dynamic spectra of the 1000 seconds of data shows
the birdies. The Old Ac was turned off around 360 seconds and
turned back on at 748 seconds. The dashed horizontal lines
bracket when the old Ac was off. You can see the rfi that
stopped when the old AC was off. The strongest are spaced 2 MHz
apart (missing the even harmonics).
- Median
spectra
when the AC was on and Off (.ps) (.pdf):
The
median
spectra was computed for when the Ac was off (black lines) and
when the Ac was on (red lines). The green lines are spaced every
1 MHz anchored at 418.52 MHz. The vertical scale is in units of
Tsys (about 60K). The Ac off spectra is offset by -.002 Tsys for
display purposes. The strongest birdies are at 418.5 and 424.53
MHz.
The Ac units are causing problems at 430 MHz (as
well as 327). The plots/images show another 1 MHz comb that is
still present when the OldAc is turned off. This is coming from the
newer Ac unit (that was left running when this test was done). The
327 tests showed that the frequencies of the comb will wander by up
to 100 kHz so the frequencies reported can vary. Hopefully we will
replace the digital units in the Ac's with an analog one.
processing: x101/051206/430.pro
02dec05: birdies at 430 MHz
with 1 minute periods. (top)
Project A2125 was doing mapping at 430 MHz. The
data showed some time dependent birdies. On 02dec05 i took some data
with the interim correlator and the 430 dome receiver. The setup
was:
- 25 MHz bw, 2048 channels, 1 sec dumps, cfr of 430.
- Data was taken for about 2 hours while sitting at az=270,
za=10.
The plots show the birdies seen during this session:
- Dynamic
spectra
for
300 seconds, polA (.gif): This image is spectral density
(time vs freq). The small dots are the time variable rfi. The
short lines at the bottom of the plot are added to show where
these birdies occur (some of the weaker periodic birdies were
not flagged).
- Time
and
frequency
extent of birdies (.ps) (.pdf):
The
top
plot shows the power in the 429.89 MHz birdie vs time. It lasts
for 3 samples so the time duration of the signal is about 2
seconds. The bottom plot shows a spectral blowup of this same
birdie. The freq. resolution (after hanning smoothing) is 24
Khz. The fwhm is about 3.5 channels so the birdie is about 30
khz wide.
- Time
periodicity
of
channels over 1500 seconds (.gif): The spectra from the
first 1500 seconds of data was interpolated in time and
then fft'd along the time direction. The image shows
periodicity vs Rf frequency. The vertical scale is in milliHz.
The horizontal dashed lines are plotted ever 16.66 milliHz
(1/60. seconds). You can see strong periodic combs around
422-423 MHz, 430 MHz, and 432.5 MHz. These channels have birdies
that have a 1 minute period. There are also some channels that
have a weaker 1 minute periodicity (but do not show up well in
this image).
- Birdie
power
vs
time for 140 minutes (.ps) (.pdf):
Thirteen
freq.
channels with 1 minute periodicity were selected. The power in
the channels were averaged over 7 freq. channels and then
plotted versus time:
- Fig 1: all 140 minutes. Each color is a different birdie.
The top plot is polA while the bottom plot is polB. This data
taking session started at about 9 am. You can see that the
birdies were stronger at the beginning of the run. Looking at
the data toward the end of the run, the periodic birdies were
still seen at some of the frequencies. The gaps in the data
are where no data was taken (between scans).
- Fig 2: This is a blowup in time of fig 1 showing the first 5
minutes of data. The dotted lines in polA (top) show how the
birdies are aligned in time. You can see two groups. The first
starts at 422.72 (lower black trace) while the second group
starts at 429.89 (light blue middle trace). The nth birdie of
each group occurs at the same time.
- Fig 3: (power in periodicity) vs period: For each
birdie, 8500 seconds of data was interpolated and then fft'd.
The plot shows the power vs periodicity. There is a comb with
16.6 millihz spacing (1/60 seconds). The width of the comb was
1 channel (about .1 millihz) so the 60 second period is
relatively stable.
Summary of birdies:
period |
1 minute |
freq. width |
about 30 Khz |
time Duration |
about 2 seconds |
birdie groups |
4 birdies per group
rf spacing: .45,.1 .1 .1 MHz
tm spacing in group: 13,7,26 seconds
each group repeats every 60 seconds. |
group rf spacing |
7.2 MHz between groups. |
birdie freq.
(strongest) |
422.72, 423.18, 423.25, 423.35 grp1
429.89, 430.31, 430.39, 430.48 grp2
432.67 |
when appeared |
looking at the x111 data for oct/nov05 we had:
18oct05 : 2 scans worth of birdies
26nov05: birdies started to appear more regularly |
On 30nov05 A2125 also saw a group of birdies
at 432 MHz. The 7.2 MHz spacing looks close to the comb that is
generated by the alfa motor controller. The 1 minute
birdies are also seen at 327 MHz (see 327
dynamic
spectra
of 3rd az swing). The dots around 318.6 are spaced by 1
minute (20 deg azimuth = 1 minute in the plots).These were done
with the alfa motor controller turned of.
processing: x101/051202/430.pro
08oct04: Filter in front of 430
dewar removes tv station intermods.
A filter was designed to remove the tv Stations a
475 and 523 MHz. It was to be placed in front of the dewar. On
08oct04 the filter was placed in front of the dewar of polA.
PolB had no filter in front of the dewar. An azimuth spin was done
and intermods falling in the 430 band caused by the tv stations was
measured.
The plots show that the
intermods
from
the tv Stations are no longer present in polA (.ps).
processing: x101/Y04/051008/430.pro
30jul03 Insert 422 to 442
filter after the dewar.
On 30jul03 the 422 to 442 MHz filters were
installed after the dewar and before the post amps. We wanted to see
if the intermods from the tv stations went away. The telescope was
parked at an azimuth that gave a peak for the tv intermods.
The plots show that the
tv
intermods
are still present with the filter after the dewar (.ps).
19jun03 430 birides vs
az, Tv station intermods. (top)
The 430 receivers were creating intermods
from 2 tv stations:
- chn 14 F1Video=471.25 F1Audio=475.7
- chn 22 F2Video=519.25 F2Audio=523.75
The table below shows the possible intermods:
chan 14,22 intermods in 430 band
combination |
freq |
2*F1Video - F2Audio |
418.75 |
2*F1Video - F2Video |
423.50 |
2*F1Audio - F2Audio |
427.75 |
2*F1Audio - F2Video |
432.25 |
We see the birdies at 427.75 and 432.25 clearly in the data. It
turns out that the 435.75 MHz birdie is the 432.5 biridies aliased
back into the band.
The correlator was setup for 12.5 MHz bandwidth
centered at 430 MHz. The edges of the band are at 430 -/+6.25MHz =
423.75 and 436.25 MHz. The 423.25 intermod is .5 MHz below the
bottom of the band. The digital filtering in the correlator is
done on the complex i,q paths separately. This causes aliases on
one side of the band to appear on the opposite. A birdie at .5 MHz
below the bottom of the band will alias into .5 MHz below the top
of the band. So 423.25 will show up at (436.25-.5= 435.75MHz). We
see this birdie in the correlator data.
Azimuth swings were done to measure the
directionality of the birdies. The dome was set at 19 deg za and
the azimuth was swung from -90 to +270 degrees and then back to
-70 deg moving at .4 degrees per second. The correlator was setup
to dump 1024 channels over 12.5 MHz once a second with the center
freq set to 430 MHz. The input data was then hanning smoothed.
The average of each spin was computed and then
a fit was made to the bandpass using harmonic functions up to
order 10*az and a 3rd degree polynomial in az. Outliers were
excluded from the fit (see corautobl()). Each 1 second integration
was bandpass corrected by dividing by this fit and then
subtracting 1 (so the units are Tsys). The channel
containing the peak of each birdie was plotted versus azimuth.
None of the birdies drifted in frequency.
The first plot shows the
average
and
peak spectra for the first az swing.
- Top: this is the average of the entire swing.
- middle: The peak value in each channel for the entire swing is
plotted. The spike at 427.75 continues up to 975.
- bottom: a blowup of the peak spectra.
The following plots show the Birdie strength vs az:
- 426.25
MHz birdie. This peaks at 300 degs az. It is not the tv
station.
- 427.75
MHz birdie. Tv intermod 2*F1Audio-F2Audio
- 432.0
MHz birdie. No az dependance. It must be
inside the dome.
- 425,426.84,
432.25,
435.26,
435.75 MHz birdies.
- 432.25 is 2F1Audo-F2Video.
- 435.75 is the 423.5 birdie aliased to the other side of the
12.5 MHz filter.
- 426.84, 435.26 may be from other parts of the tv signal
(color,etc..).
- 425 MHz may not be from the tv station. It does not have the
strong spike in polA at az=124 degrees.
- PolA lines up with az =124 for all the signals.
- PolB is a bit more scatterd.
- The 430 dome main beam is circularly polarized. These signal
are coming in the sidelobes and the polarization properties
are probably different. Since there are two separate
transmitters at two different locations creating these
intermods, it may be that the two polarizations are sensitive
to different transmitters.
processing: x101/030619/corazspin.
More on
the 426.25 MHz birdie (doppler shift birdie via the azimuth
spin) (top)
To further investigate the 426.25 MHz birdie, an
azimuth spin moving at .4 deg/sec was done with the dome at 19 deg
za and the carriage house at 17.6 deg. A 20Khz bandwidth centered at
426.24994 was baseband sampled from the dome and the carriage house.
The motion of the azimuth will cause a doppler shift in the signal
that can be seen by multiplying the two complex signals together.
The maximum doppler shift will be: Dfrq=vel/C
* freq = .3014met/sec /C* 426.25e6.
or +/- .43 Hz. To see this shift, spectra were constructed from 12
seconds of data (giving 1/12.=.08hz resolution). The spectra were
then plotted vs azimuth. The image
shows
the
doppler shift versus az and the spectra vs time,az.
- Note: the plots are incorrectly labeled. they say 462.25..
they should say 426.25.
- Top: The cross spectra (fft(chVolt*grVolt) image shows +/- 5
hz on the horizontal axis and -90 to 270 azimuth position on the
vertical axis. You can see a sine wave in the data with an
amplitude close to .5 Hz. The minimum is close to az=120
degrees. This puts the zero doppler at az=30. This should be the
location where the azimuth arm is pointing at the transmitter
(doppler=0). The amplitude peak of the spectra was at -60
degrees. This is 90 degrees away from the birdie direction. It
should also be noted that -60 degrees lines the azimuth arm
perpendicular to the T12,T8 side of the triangle.
- Center: This shows the spectral density (+/- 200 hz) of the
dome signal on the horizontal scale and time on the y axis. You
can see the signal chirp from 35 hz up to 110 hz and then back
down in about 5 seconds. The pattern repeats every 12 seconds.
This sweep looks like a phase locked loop that has become
unlocked (see 100
MHz
reference
comes unlock).
- Bottom. This is the same image as the center plot with the
vertical scale changed to azimuth direction. You can see the
strong signal at an azimuth of 300 degrees.
processing: x101/030619/riazspin.
23oct02 410 MHz
birdies. (top)
A 408 to 412MHz filter was put on the dome 430 system to do an
experiment at 410.5 MHz. A number of narrow birdies were found
close to this value. They were narrow < 3 Khz width. Data was
taken on 23oct02 and 24oct02 to characterize the birdies. The plots
show the 408 and 410 birdie behavior.
- Fig 1 frequency of the birdies. 101 second
averages with dome at 18 deg za and az at 270 deg.
- Fig 2 time variation of the 410.5249 birdie. 101
seconds with telescope stationary. Red is polB, black is
polA. The adjacent channels are plotted in blue and green (blown
up by 300 and 100). The birdies are varying by up to 100 %
during these 100 seconds.
- Fig 3 PolA azimuth variation of the signals. 4
Azimuth swings were done with the dome at 18 degrees za and the
azimuth moving at .4 degs/second. The data was sampled once a
second.
- Fig 4 PolB azimuth variation of the signals. 4
Azimuth swings were done with the dome at 18 degrees za and the
azimuth moving at .4 degs/second. The data was sampled once a
second.
On 25oct02 rey velez and I spent the day in the rfi van searching
for the 410.5249 MHz birdie. We finally located it coming from the
navy transmitter tower in aguada. There is the tall tower (1000'??)
and two smaller towers. We measured a strength of -48 dbm (using a 4
element yaggi and a 15 db amp). Using the same setup from the
platform we measured a maximum strength of ? -70dbm??.
The location of the tower from our gps receiver
is: 18 24 12.1, 67 09 32.7 (probably 1/2 mile east of the tower).
The observatory is at: 18 20 39.44, 66 45 10 so the tower is
west of the observatory. This is the bearing we got using the yaggi
from the top of the platform (275 degrees). The azimuth swing gave a
peak at 150 deg az and a smaller one at 300 deg az. These are far
from the 275 position of the transmitter. The 150 az is 90
degrees from the cables that go to T8 (240 deg az). It may be that
the main cables from T8 to the platform are acting as a radiator.
The az=300 birdie is perpendicular to the T12,T8 beam of the
platform.
Since the signal is not constant in time, on/off
processing will no do a very good job of removing it. I might be
interesting to measure the signal in full polarization mode and then
subtract the polarized component of the signal (since it is probably
highly polarized).
processing: x101/021023/doall.pro
23apr01 430
dome. Multimeter, power meter inside new rfi enclosure. (top)
The rfi enclosure (see 11apr01) was tested with the power meter and
multimeter inside the enclosure. The 2nd multimeter in cabinet 1 was
turned off. The receiver monitoring and power cables were hooked up
to the the devices inside the box via feed through connectors. The
correlator was setup for 2048 channels and 195 Khz bw (95
hz/channel). 5 second integrations were done and then the data was
hanning smoothed. The acquisition sequence was:
- 45 records: cabinet back door open, rfi box open,
meters on.
- 30 records: cabinet back door closed, rfi box open,
meters on.
- 60 records: cabinet back door closed, rfi box closed,
meters on.
- 60 records: cabinet back door closed, rfi box closed,
meters off.
- 120 records: cabinet back door closed, rfi box closed, meters
on.
- 60 records: cabinet back door closed, rfi box closed,
meters off.
The 120 records with the meters off were used as a band pass
correction. 200 channels adjacent to the power meter birdie at
433.325 MHz were used to correct for sky variations with time.
- The first
image
shows the 195 Khz band with horizontal stripes where the
changes were made. The birdie at 433.325 is from the power
meter. It completely disappears only when the meters are turned
off (4th section from the bottom). The birdie at 433.351 also
goes off when the meters are turned off.
- The second
image
is a blowup in frequency of the first. You can see that the
433.325 birdie is still visible in the 3rd section from the
bottom where everything is closed up and the meters are on.
- The plots
show the power in the 433.325 MHz channel versus time. The
data was normalized to the average value for the 30 records when
the back door was open (maximum signal), divided by the average
of 10 adjacent channels (to remove sky variation), and then
converted to db. It contains the power from the birdie + Tsys
(about 60K). Closing the back door of the cabinet reduced the
power by 18 db. Closing the rfi box reduced it another 10 db.
The bottom plot shows there is about .1 to .4 db leakage with
the rfi box all closed up. Averaging the spectra in the 3rd
section gave a birdie of about 2 Kelvins.
We need to redo the measurement placing an rfi tight cap on the gpib
bus cable to see if this is the remaining problem.
processing: x101/010423/doit.pro
11apr01 430 dome.
Multimeter inside new rfi enclosure.
(top)
An rfi enclosure for the multi meters, power meter was placed
inside the right cabinet on the turret floor. The multi
meter used to read the receiver temperatures was put in the box
and hooked up to the gpib bus. The correlator was setup for 195
Khz by 2048 channels (95 hz channel width). Integrations were done
with the rfi box open and closed (both times inside the
right cabinet). An integration was also done with the second multi
meter in the left cabinet on to show the reference birdie. A
linear baseline was fit to the interference free part of the
spectra and then used to normalize the averages to Tsys. 60 deg
Kelvin was used to convert from fractions of Tsys to Kelvins.
The plot
shows:
- black - 1400 second integration with the multi meter in the
rfi box. No birdie is seen.
- red - 100 second integration with the
2nd multi meter on in the left cabinet to show the birdie at
429.73993.
- blue - 400 second integration with the
front panel to the rfi box open. No birdie is seen.
- dark red - the baseline used to normalize the spectra.
It is interesting that we see no birdie from the multi meter in
the right rack even when the front to the rfi box is open.
processing: x101/010411/multimeter.pro
22jan01 Using the dome
430 MHz system to look at the vittara jeep parked by the control
room. (top)
The vittara jeeps are not shielded and are often used in the
parking lot next to the control room. We tried to see if any rfi
from the jeeps was getting into the 430 dome receiver system. The
dome was as az=350deg and za=19deg. The jeep was as close to the
control room as possible looking toward the dome. The jeep was
turned on at the minute and turned off at the minute + 30 seconds.
This was repeated for 7 minutes. The correlator was set for
12.5MHz bw, 1024 channels and readout at 1 second intervals.
Images were made of the spectral density function (frequency
versus time). (The images below are about 800Kb ps files).
The solid lines in the images are the start of a minute (jeep on)
and the dash lines are the 30 seconds (jeep off). (some of these
lines were lost in the conversion from postscript back to the
screen).
- Figure
1 has the band pass normalized to the median band pass for
the 420 seconds, 1 subtracted, and then clipped to +/- .02 Tsys.
There is rfi and continuum sources but nothing obvious from the
jeep.
- Figure
2
is also flatten by frequency channels 400 through 500. This
gets rid of the continuum sources (as well as any continuum from
the jeep). There does not appear to be any frequency dependent
spikes correlated with the jeep going on/off.
Looking at the total power versus time also does not show any
obvious correlation with the jeep. We need to redo the experiment
with the jeep in the beam (maybe at the fork before you get to the
rim road).
processing: x101/010122/vittara.pro
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